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succeed on that, when would we know that he actually does have to fully pay this? to the new york >> well, look, there's going to be a briefing schedule that will be set. this is going to take quite a bit of time. i mean, i expect that there will be months involved in the briefing schedule, both for trump organization to file its appeal than months for a response i don't see this happen been concluded anytime soon. and plus, there are different different levels of appeal. presumably if he's unsuccessful with the this level, he'll go all the way up to the highest court, which is actually called the new york court of appeals. but presumably he will exhaust every avenue of appeal that he has. >> kristy greenberg, we'll be following it all closely with you. thank you for your time tonight and thank you all so much for joining us live from london tonight, cnn newsnight with abby phillip starts right now
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>> joe biden facing a vietnam moment in the war in gaza, that's tonight on newsnight good evening i'm abby phillip in new york and tonight, a soldiers final act and his last words add to the unprecedented pressure, pressure on president biden. aaron bushnell was an active-duty air force member, just 25 years old. he took his own life on saturday in a shocking protest. he let himself on fire in front of the israeli embassy in washington, dc. we're not going to show you the actual video of those final moments. it's too gruesome, but this is still that was taken from a video that he recorded in it, bushnell explains why he felt that he had to do what he did. he talked to the camera for nearly a minute and he said at this, i will no longer be complicit in genocide. i'm
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about to engage in an extreme act of protest you can see bushnell's standing us flag visible on his uniform. the embassy gate there behind him. his last words were words that he shouted until he collapsed from the fatal fire that he said, free palestine. now, there have been other moments like this in modern history the awful violence of the act is intended to jolt the conscience i want to warn you some of what we're about to see and discuss is difficult to watch some of it, you may well remember a buddhist monk in saigon, a flame in 1963 to protest the american backed regime in south vietnam a quaker, norman morrison at the pentagon in 1965 to demand a stop to violence in vietnam here you're looking at the vigil that was held after his death a fruit vendor who ignited the arab spring, which led to the downfall of dictators across the middle east. now, the fact
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that israel's war in gaza has provoked this kind of response from really anyone marks a new and stunning chapter in this country's stark divisions over this war biden is clearly feeling the pressure and privately, he's expressing his frustration with the netanyahu government and its refusal to moderate the bombing campaign. but right now, here's where the numbers stand domestically. 50% of americans say that israel's campaign has gone too far. that includes 63% of democrats that number has been building recent events. they've also highlighted how limited biden's increasingly frank warnings to netanyahu have been an exerting pressure on a us ally he, he, for example, warn netanyahu not to plan for an invasion into the densely populated refuge for civilians, rafah netanyahu says, he has a plan to do just that tomorrow will see a test of just how frustrated the voters are
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there's been a vocal campaign in the state of michigan to get democrats to vote vote uncommitted as a message directly to the president, the united states. now whether president biden hears that message, or if he can do anything at this point to make israel hear that message. will that remains to be seen tonight, progressive anchor at the president is mounting, joining me now is someone who's been a key aggressive for very long time. democratic congresswoman from california, barbara lee. she's a former chair of the progressive caucus. she's also running for senate. now, li was also the only member of congress from either party to vote against the 2001 authorization of military force that sent american troops into afghanistan for what turned out to be two decades of war congresswoman, thank you for joining us tonight. as you saw, there are service members self-immolating outside of the israeli embassy. it's really a horrifying thing to watch when
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you saw that what went through your mind? >> it's tragic. >> first of all, secondly, i thought about his family, his friends, hound >> there. they must be devastated. and of course, my first thought was to send condolences and give me a chance to do that to his family. into his friends. you know, i've always supported our first amendment rights police for protesting but peaceful is the operative way to approach protests. so in this instance, this turned out as in many respects it looks like it could be suicide but it's very sad and i hope those who are protesting continue to protest peacefully because violence should not be an option on on any front and any protests for any reason. >> the service member said that
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he can no longer be complicit in genocide two questions for you. do you consider what israel is doing in gaza to be a genocide? and do you consider the president as a result of that to be complicit in genocide look, i am going to tell you what i believe in terms of first condemning the horrific hamas attacks terrorism should not be tolerated in any part of the world, including in israel and i also have said very clearly that in going after him my us killing innocent civilians, what 30,000 nearly women and children. that is not how you prosecute award to address terrorism, we have to have a cease fire. and abby, that's what i'm calling for i called for a ceasefire early we have to get a political people in diplomatic solution so that the hostages can be released. and
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so this this terrible death and destruction and violence can stop. and i'm concerned about an escalation into a regional war with the united states embroiled in it. and so of course it's in our national security interests also. and we need to continue you to call for a ceasefire and we need to call for the stopping. the end of the killing of so many civilians, so many children's, so many women >> just tonight, president biden made some news. he spoke to the late night host seth meyers. i want to play for you what he said well, i hope by the weekend, i mean, the end of the weekend at least my my my >> nash security adviser tells me that we're close. we're closer, not done yet. my hope is, why next monday, we'll have a ceasefire >> is that enough for you? and he's talking there about not a permanent ceasefire, but a short term ceasefire in exchange for the release of
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hostages look, i have called for a permanent cease fire. but what the president has discussed and what is taking place really opens up the space. space, excuse me, for a ceasefire and we saw the last time that the hostages, some hostages were released. >> so this is a good thing. let's, let's do this and do good quickly, i hope it occurs before next week, so that we can stop this onslaught of civilians, but also abby, i must say that we have to go and fight for and continue to speak out for a permanent ceasefire. ryan, we obviously a week before lennox i met with king abdullah from jordan and what he raised in our meeting was very scary to me, but also, he gave some hope that there are certain issues on the table that could lead to a peace plan. >> but >> remember the united states has supported and continues to port support a two-state
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solution netanyahu said that he does not. so we're going to have to fight very hard for a permanent ceasefire and to get back on track and or a pollen on that romantic. and on that exact note, i mean, netanyahu has essentially ignored a lot of what the biden administration has already said to them about what they want to see you he has pushed aside this idea of a two-state solution. he says he still plans to conduct an invasion into rafah, despite the biden administration warning him not to do that without certain conditions being met. do you think that president biden actually has influence over the netanyahu government at this point >> the president must continue to hold israel accountable and must continue to tell netanyahu and no uncertain terms that what is taking place as first of all, against the rules of warfare it's a violation of
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human rights >> what is taking place >> is the housings of civilians, women, and children, 30,000 are being killed. >> is it for him to just say that netanyahu or does he, others have said the aid needs to be conditioned. do you believe that that's the case? >> it does. it does need to be conditioned. we should never allow any country to receive us tax dollars without some rules, some conditions and some some accountability measures. and so yes, that should take i mean, to be clear, there are levering there are i mean, there are conditions by law on the aid that goes to israel, but i think the criticism from some people is that it doesn't go far enough and that it needs to go further. so i mean to what degree do you think that that should be something that president biden pushes even further than what has already required by law. >> he should push as far as he can push because one, the
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leverage that the united states has is very clear to me. i chaired the committee on appropriations, the funds, a lot of our international diplomacy and development investments. it's very clear to me that if countries don't meet the conditions, then we have the kind of leveraged that should insist that they do. or we pull back and we do not fund to the extent that the funding is not accountable to us tax dollars. and this is what's taking place now. and so the president must insist that the rules of accountability be compliant with and they haven't been abby. and so that's the issue. >> congresswoman, i want to get your take on the michigan primary, which will be tomorrow. there's a very public, very high-profile campaign to get michigan democrats to go ahead and vote uncommitted that primary to send a message to president biden. if you were i know you're california voters, but
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if you were a michigan voter, would you vote uncommitted? >> no, but abby, what i'm doing, i'm very focused on, first of all, of course, is my election on march 5 for the united states senate from california. secondly, i would do everything i can do to make sure that donald trump is not not elected donald trump wants to disrupt, dismantle our democracy. he wants to establish the autocratic government. and he's a national security threat and he's a danger to this country into the rest of the world. >> congresswoman. i know you're very busy these days. thank you very much for your time tonight. >> thank you nice. being with you >> and up ahead, 48 hours from now, a death row inmate who says that he is innocent, is scheduled to die. and now after new evidence surfaces, i'll speak with the drewry foreman, who says he was fooled plus a cnn exclusive, one of the key architects of the trump coup plot has been concealing secret and damning posts from
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cousin. and the cousin's fiance some 23 years ago. his lawyers asked for a delay after new evidence surfaced in the case. but just a short time ago, the texas parole board recommended the request be denied, leaving cantu's fate in the hand hands of governor greg abbott. now this comes as the head of the jury that decided cantu should die is asking abbott for that delay in an op-ed, jeff calhoun writes in part simply put, we the jurors did not hear the truth. you assume you would hear from a person under oath? bottom line, i feel like i was fooled will be speaking with calhoun and just a moment. but first, cnn's ed lavendera has more on this case ivan cantu is just days away from death for almost 24 years. cantu says he's maintained his innocence in the murders of his cousin james mosqueda and his fiance, amy kitchen. and he wants to talk about the case, which
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brings us to this moment. sitting down with cantu who is not only an inmate on texas death row, but also a former grade school classmate of mine. >> how are you man? >> i'm doing good. hey, thanks for coming out if it's a blessing. thank you so much. it's going to see you. it's been almost 40 years, man and a long time. yeah. >> jen two was sent to death row the same year. i started my career at cnn and the evidence against him seemed overwhelming. cantu's girlfriend and her brother testified he committed the murders. cantu's fingerprint was found on a magazine inside the murder weapon bloody genes and socks with the victim's blood was found inside his apartment and his cousins car police say he stole was also found outside his apartment. you gotta be honest with. i remember thinking, man, i don't see how he didn't do it, right? it seemed pretty pretty open and shut to me. at face value. when you look at all the evidence, it wasn't open and shut case. you'velways maintained your innocence absolutely. from day one you
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give me a new trial with the team and what the attorney that i've got today, but i want them to know, hey, you know, stop the madness. >> but in 2019, the case against cantu started to look different matt duff, a tv producer, turned private investigator, turned podcaster discovered cantu's case and started digging he's produced more than 40 episodes on the case in a podcast called cousins by blood. >> i went into his innocence claim investigation with an open mind, knowing that he very well could be guilty. he could be just trying to spin a story. i think if anybody takes the time to just look at his case with an open mind, you can't say that he doesn't deserve a new trial. >> ivan deserves his fair day in court. can to supporters say he was framed. can to alleges in court filings that james blueskay that was a big time drug dealer who owed someone 250,000 dollars. duff says
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testimony from the two key witnesses is riddled with falsehoods. cantu's girlfriend, amy, bet testified cantu committed the murders around midnight on november 3rd, but cantu's legal team says to forensic pathologists, say the victims were actually killed hours later on the morning of the next day. she also testified cantu took a rolex watch from his cousin, the rolex, it turns out was never missing and return to the victim's family after the murders. amy bet you're also testified she threw the bloody genes with the victims dna in their apartment trash can but the genes don't have cantu's dna and our two sizes too large in court filings can to also says two days before the victim's bodies were discovered, a man in a pizza delivery uniform came to his apartment and said his cousin owed money then fired a gunshot into cantu's apartment. that bullet matched bullets in the victims. >> the pizza man
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>> pizza man story was dismissed, but matt duff says they've identified the person and he matches the description of one of his cousins, drug supplier. >> you remember being on the stand? >> amy betters, brother jeff, also who testified that can to told him he planned to kill his cousin, amy. bet your died in 2021 and shortly after jeff bettcher called the prosecutor's office and recanted his testimony >> i think my statements charge prosecutors say jeff betters interview has been misconstrued and that ultimately the concerns about his testimony were alleviated and the district attorney, who has the power to re-examine the case, says, he remains, quote, fully convinced that ivan cantu brutally murdered two innocent victims. and that this belief is quote, anchored in the undeniable evidence presented at trial. how do you react to that? >> i don't think they're looking at the same case at that trial. >> and twos >> public defender attorneys never called a single witness. >> i think if you just lay it all out, even though the
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state's case was so strong if you look at it from the other direction than people would see this case in a completely different way. >> we can to is scheduled to die on february 28. >> i just have to brace for impact and the worst-case scenario. they ignore everything and placement on that gardening kill me. >> it's bizarre and kind of surreal to think about how different pads our lives have taken i've always struggled on, like making sense of what's happened to you thank you for saying that took years off >> ed lavandera, cnn dallas >> our thanks to ed for that and for more on this story, i want to bring in jeff calhoun. he was the head of the jury that recommended that can to should die for this case jeff, you are now backing a delayed for canto. you say that you've been fooled. you regret your vote in favor of an execution. why is that >> well, the reason i say i've been told is because what you just showed earlier one of the
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key witnesses admittedly lied and when something like that happens in something this magnitude in a situation where this may be one of the most important decisions i will have ever made and that's why it led me to go ahead and carry out and be a voice in this situation because i don't feel like we got to complete trial presented to us now. and i look back on the new evidence. >> do you feel convinced now that cantu is actually innocent? >> no, no. >> this >> doesn't point to any innocent or guilty verdict. it simply points to being thorough in the justice of his case >> so what is your reaction now to the texas parole board declining to recommend? ben clemency or a reprieve of this execution
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>> well, there's things that they see that i don't see in there's things that i see that they don't see. my purpose is making sure that my perspective it's recognized, it's very difficult to recognize a perspective like mine and the other jurors, because we were there witnessing all this i simply want that perspective to be recognized and i've got a small voice. there's a lot going on here in texas as you're well aware. >> i >> want to amplify my voice just for a moment and ask that my perspective be recognized by the state of texas and this is a state and it didn't ministration. i might add that i fully support governor greg abbott is now the decider here. it's not just you, as you said, there are other voices including and celebrities like kim kardashian, who are calling for this execution to be halted because of some of this doubt, some of this new evidence do
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you think that this will have an impact on the governor's decision? >> well, i don't know about celebrities. i don't know how much worried he'll put into that. i don't know the governor of watched him over the time that he served for us here in texas. i admire the man but i think that my boys hopefully it's, coming from one of his supporters. perhaps will be hard. and maybe he'll he'll have an opportunity to see and hear what i have to say and really don't see any issue with postponing an execution to look through this new stuff because really it's more but they have it's not so much about the new evidence of my mind. it's a fact that one of the witnesses admittedly lie and there's a line there one way or the window to shut it all that up. >> so what do you want to see happen here? you said a
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postponement do you think a new trial as possible? do you think that clemency is necessary given the doubts, what do you want to see >> well, you know, i'm a lawyer. i don't i don't know the process is but i do believe the next would be the would be a hearing first postponed. the execution. have a hearing. look at the evidence and if it warrants a new trials and that's what should it be done? i'm not jumping to conclusions here. i'm going through this methodically as we went through the case as jurors. >> all right. >> jeff calhoun. thanks for sharing that perspective with us. >> thank you >> next, does donald trump have the cash to pay his broad punishment? a new development tonight is raising questions. plus are the social media posts from new york's ag, the equivalent of spiking the football in the end zone will debate laura coates live
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>> backroom deals cia sequence of fares, bribery, corruption, prostitution oh much, more to the store. >> united states of scandal with jake tapper sunday at nine on cnn >> so every time the clock hits midnight, the bill for donald trump's fraud punishment gets steeper. he's accruing interests penalties on that 450 the million dollar judgment. and one person who's not letting him forget it. well, it's attorney general, letitia james. she's been using her social media account to publicly announce his tab as it grows day by day. joining me now cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson, also with us former deputy assistant attorney general, harry litman. men. so harry is this trolling or is it all just above board? >> i don't know about
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aboveboard. there's a little feel like spiking the ball in the end zone after the touchdown lord knows she has been provoked by him quite a bit, but she'd be better off being just straight. and so burr and not needling i am in that way. but you understand why she's doing it? >> i think inquiring minds want to this was a big victory, right? a big victory for the marketplace in new york, the financial capital of the world. but humbug, there's no victims, of course they have victims. the victims are everyone who plays by the rules fairly every single day, every business person who has it's the pay, legitimate interest and more potentially because they're honest. and so i think that she has an obligation. maybe that's a little too strong. but i think she certainly is interplays. look, she's an elected official. let's remember that. right? and she did say she would go after him. that's beside the point. and that she apparently had the legal we'll goods abby, harry to do so. she declared victory. and so why not remind him of the significant bill? yes. so
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you think it's it's like totally within their game is fair game for her. >> but harry, i mean, what >> what's what's the landscape here from a legal perspective? i mean, is there any consequence to any of those know, look, you can do it, but she's like the head of the office here and so she speaks for the office and there is a little bit of a triumphal feeling as you're saying. but normally you would think of prosecutors keeping it on the straight and narrow and letting the verdict do. they're talking, but there's no consequence to it. she she needles i'm a little bit unsure at it stings. >> and that's even an appeal. you think this could come up >> probably not, but judges reading the newspaper like everybody else and it has a little bit of a personal field. and as you were saying, she did campaign and that's going to come up, that she campaigned saying she was going to investigate trump, that i'll be part of the appeal. so that whole flavor she'd be better off with a clean record where
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there's none of this happening in my view >> listen it may come up during the appeal that may not. but the reality is is i think what the judge did very smartly and his findings of fact remember no jury. so he had to make the judge the determination as to why whether or not there was liability here. he went chapter and verse abbey through every witness specifying specifically what they spoke to about the fraud, what their testimony was, how credible or incredible the testimony was, specifically how they lead to his verdict. i just think it was in terms of putting together there are a narrative that was compelling as to the issue of not guilty. it wasn't a criminal case, but liability be not beyond reasonable doubt. the by a preponderance of the evidence. i think the judge did that well, and i think any judicial appeal is going to factor in findings of fact, conclusions of law, and were they consistent with the realities of the testimony? i think whatever you say about this it seemed to me that it was yeah. >> i mean, it's it's one
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thing for there to be a political argument that maybe she's a political person, what she's run for office, we know that what about this idea that trump himself? has been every day pretty much attacking her, attacking the judge in this case. i mean, can you actually argue that she's out of bounds when trump does that all the time, whether in a court of law or in a court of public opinion? >> yes. he's a total but you can as a prosecutor, you encounter encountered and you're better off playing it totally straight. you're absolutely right. there's almost never been a defendant like this provoked up to here. nevertheless, deep breath. and sober prosecutorial continents. so do her better but she's a human being also and she can't help it a little bit. i see that. but i don't think they teach it prosecutor school that to have that stance this year will be the test will be the test of the poker face of a lot of different parameters when it
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comes to trump. but joey on this issue of this judgment, it's huge and it's growing day by day. the trump trump and his kids, they've appealed the judgements still grows. yes. >> does he have the cash? how much will he need to easel move forward? yes. so appeal. first question. first, abby, in terms of whether he has the cash, we will soon find out, right. because we're going to be a determination made as to whether he posted in cash or any alternative, whether he puts up his properties or does anything else. and so the event he wants the interests to stop, he's going to have to pony up whatever that bond amount is to make good on it. and you know what they should be an appeal. i think it's good for the justice system. it's good for appellate judges to evaluate the significance of the legal decision to determine whether it was based on the law and not animus, not politics. hi, not anything else other than what i said before, findings of fact and conclusions of law. but at the end of the day, it's a significant judgment. does he have the goods to pay it? and
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we'll know any day now. yeah. and harry, what do you think are the chances that he wins on appeal >> zero more or less. but but i mean they're very remote, but he still is going to have to post it as joey says, and he already has taken his appeal. the posting is to keep the judgment from being executed in 30 days. and by the way, she's needling them a little there to right. so i pass as 40 wall street every day. i wasn't just stay for sure, but that's death is 40 wasn't but that's the point. look, we've met. it's not clear what his liquid liquidity is, but we're talking 500 million. so that means having to post probably some collateral in these crown jewel buildings of his. that's going to hurt. and that gets right to the dna of who he is on his brand and not for nothing. he's gotta pay a lot of people, a lot of money. there's e jean carroll, he just paid the new york times for a
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frivolous lawsuit against them. this stuff adds up a question it does. and remember the issues now going to be does he have to sell any of his assets to do so, the attorney general herself has said, hey, you know what, if you don't pay this forward, we're going to force a judgment against those assets no matter what your worth is when you're talking about a half $1 billion. that'd be that's nothing to sneeze at again, the appeal will move forward with harry on this. i think there's very limited issues with respect to his appeal. right? i think the judge was very clear, very straightforward, and quite frankly, very meticulous in enunciating what the fraud was. the basis of the fraud, the longevity of the fraud, putting together they're independent monitor and so but look, different minds can differ. legal minds can differ, but everything she wanted and that was important to he gave her a little bit less. that's going to matter on yeah. i mean, initially this was to put him completely out of business,
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doesn't do just that, but it's a lot of money. harry litman and joey jackson. thank you both very much. and just in a white powder was discovered at donald trump juniors home. a spokesman for the former president's son says that the substance was found in a letter that trump jr. opened and the test, the spokesman says, are inconclusive as of right now, but officials on the scene said that they do not believe that what they found was deadly. and up next republican presidential candidate nikki haley, losing a big funder after losing her home state. she's still staying in the race. but why that's a question i'll pose to the only member of congress who's endorsed her, congressman, ralph norman the whole story with anderson cooper sunday on cnn >> your ancestry is so much more than names and dates it's the story of your family then
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sunday at ten on cnn >> in the 2024 race is nikki haley staging some kind of protests, candidates candidacy? or maybe a zombie campaign, or perhaps an off-ramp for republicans. because after another lop-sided loss to donald trump, this one in her home-state, the path to the domination is tough, even impossible. you might say and now, one of america's biggest conservative donors is cashing out the network linked to billionaire charles koch says, it will throw no more money to nikki haley and instead support senate and house races haley's campaign says that it's still has enough money to keep going. joining me now is republican congressman of south carolina, ralph norman. he's also the only member of congress who has endorsed nikki haley for president. congressman. she just lost your home state. if
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she can't win there can you name one? and state where she can win >> well you know, nikki haley did not win south carolina, but she did better than was expected. she didn't win by 30, but she didn't lose by 30. she won, lost by 20. that'd been said it's just too early in the process. to get out now one thing is for certain, if she gets out, she has zero chance. look, this is february when president trump ran in 2016. he wasn't the nominee until mei she's got super tuesday coming up. she's got michigan where she's campaigning. now so she's fired up and ready to go and let's see how it plays out. let's >> see has to be able to identify, i think at least one place where she thinks there's a chance of her winning. i mean, i'm not talking about dropping out. just the question. can she win anywhere, donald trump won even in 2016 before he got enough delegates to be the nominee.
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>> well, all i know is she's she's working from morning till night. there's 864 delegates left after super tuesday. there will be that will be 38% of the total and, politics is, is a moving target. support is you don't know until you get in the state, start advertising things that run. most people out or money and then support. she's got both. and what's the there is no reason for heard of to get out. now, predicting what she's going to do no one would do that. you do you put your name out there, you put your vision and you relate to people as nikki does. and we'll see how it works on. >> here's one thing that some people have suggested is this a break glass in case of emergency campaign in which she's banking on something happening saying that trump might be convicted in the coming months >> look, i've been with her on the bus a number of times. that
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has never come up as far as that happening, you know, we just we live each day, work each day in the political arena. and so no, this is no breaking glass, it's just going out there and doing the job the people who have donated to her campaign would be very disappointed if she just called it quits even though everyone wants most a lot of people are calling for that, but she's the one with the name of the line. she's the one who has to look at the numbers. she's the one who is vine for. >> she's >> one of two candidates left. she's beaten 12 others so she's not daunted she's has courage and she has she's she's looking at this running this race like she did when she started 13 months ago and she's trying to finish it and we'll see how it works out. >> so your colleague on the hell ken buck, he just introduced this resolution calling on the cabinet to
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remove president biden using the 25th amendment. do you support that? >> it said that president biden is in the shape that he's in. all americans. no, he's not running the country. he can't read a thank you note from a teleprompter and this is the leader of the free world. this is the leader in charge of our armed forces. this is the leader who's vowed to protect and defend america. he just isn't doing it so no. it's up the democratic party to put in the people to put who they want to run for president. if joe biden for another four years. so be it. if it's some other candidate, so be it. i'll let the democrats decided that sounds a note at the 25th amendment i wouldn't support that. i mean, that's well, what's the purpose in that? let people decide well, let me just one final question to you. i mean, at nikki, haley has all
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but sad that the only person who could lose to joe biden is donald trump. do you agree with that? >> well, i think she's there are a number of people who take offense to what president trump says. i don't understand president trump saying that, but this is a game of addition. this is a game of getting his most more people out to vote then as ever voted. and i just think nikki can do that. particularly president trump keeps the rhetoric up. but we'll see again, it's, there's two of them left and nikki is one of them. we'll see how it plays out. >> all right. congressman ralph norman, thank you very much. >> thank you >> and there's new video just into news night, the grieving guardian of a child murdered at robb elementary school in uvalde is placed in handcuffs after he confronted a county commissioner at a meeting here is part of that confrontation and the backstory on the other end my as cnn previously
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someone who made some really stupid choices when she was basically a kid. i say kid because i think about what i was like in my early '20s and it defined her image. it destroyed her life in ways that were not the case, of course, for the other participant for whom we should have had higher expectations of. and she has really struggled, i think in the year since to escape that scandal. and that branding and that public look shaming that the country put her through. and then many of us were complicit in. she's tried many times to reinvent herself. being a reality tv star at one point, hosting a show, designing handbags, whatnot. >> but i mean this feels like the ultimate in like twirling on your haters. >> yeah. >> she looks great. she very glad. >> you liked that first one in all red is quite a statement about the way that she was treated. as you said, as a young woman when the man
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didn't really have any consequences? know, she looks great. i see. >> i mean, maybe it hasn't worked up until this point, but it seems like she's turned it on its head. >> i think you actually her most successful reign itself, reinvention or, or career phase was when she spoke out about cyberbullying, which was about ten years ago, that was really compelling because she is almost uniquely qualified, right? to be talking about the consequences of a national pylon, essentially, bullying of someone in public, shaming. and i thought she was very brave to have talked about that.
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>> how much about kind of getting a lot of the time. >> i actually i wrote my college thesis of all things about these get out the vote efforts that we're trying to make voting seem sexy. and they are >> generally useless they're there glamorous and sometimes self-aggrandizing. and again, she looks great. the close look great. it's not going to make a width of it is because people just don't care about celebrities asking them to vote >> i said that's not a compelling reason to vote. a compelling reason to vote is to feel like you have a stake in the outcome that you understand what the stakes are, what the consequences are if one candidate wins versus another, and that your vote really matters. is this. >> there's also a generational thing about this real quick. i mean, this general gen z or whatever. i mean, they are probably much more amenable to turning this around for monica lewinsky, than older people were. >> well, they didn't live through the era, obviously, when sheas

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